APHZAB Looks at Two Projects

Armory Park continues to attract new construction and renovation projects. The regular 17 January meeting was presented with two projects to review, one a formal review and one informal.

The informal review was for a small development on the lot at 140 E. 18th Street , between 5th and Arizona Avenues on the south side of 18th Street. The project proposes four single family houses on a resubdivision of the original large lot into5th-and-18th-lot-a four lots. As proposed, all four would face 18th Street. This was the board’s second look at the proposal which considering earlier feedback had been modified from two stories each to 1 1/2 stories with the appearance of being a single level. There was discussion of the appropriateness of the house closest to 5th Avenue facing 18th Street. Nearly all AP houses on such corners face the major avenue. The arrangement of doors and windows also attracted comments. An informal review is merely a communication between a project proponent and the board to make the formal review go smoothly and to avoid misunderstandings regarding historic zone requirements.

The formal review was of a renovation at 813 S. 5th Avenue. This is a house primarily of mud adobe finished with stucco and some brick accents. The items for review were a masonry/iron fence, porches, the roof and stucco wall finish. The discussion was very 813-s-5th-aconstructive as the owner and contractor offered their proposals and the board commented and then acted on them. The dialog centered on how to make the property more attractive and historic. Enlarging the front dormer with a balcony was one idea deemed inconsistent with the historic character of surroundings. The board’s findings (Legal Action Report) will go to the City/County board  for their action and then to the Planning and Development Services director for his decision. An appeal could go to the Mayor and Council.

An observation: The work of the board and applicants is made more difficult by the failure of the city historic office to furnish the board with any copies of the extensive application package. The drawings, photos maps, etc. would have been very helpful during the discussions.

The city has extensive guides which apply significant detail to all historic zones and to an entire zone such as Armory Park. A more subjective but still important concept is that of rhythm (also described in the guides). Fundamentally this means that a proposed project should fit well with its surroundings. Some items considered are fence styles, setbacks, roof materials, roof styles and structure orientation. All of these came up in the evening’s discussions. Both proposed metal roofs which might have caused pushback but seemed better received because several nearby houses had similar roofs. Even if kept within historic zone limits, the height of a structure might become an issue in an area of bungalows but not so among apartment buildings. This blog’s LINKS page can direct you to pages you might find helpful.

The work of the APHZAB is very important to the community and to those who propose exterior construction on AP structures. Improved understanding of the process and the logic behind it will helpful to to all of us.

Author: Ken Taylor

I am a relatively recent Armory Park resident (2/16) along with my wife, Donna and our little dog Lulu. In our 7+ decades, Donna and I lived over 30 years in Anchorage, Alaska before moving to Arizona. We have been Arizona residents for 16 years before coming here including 12 in Green Valley and four in west Tucson. We love the neighborhood for its history, walkability and interesting residents. Lulu insists on walking every day so you may see us following her around and picking up trash to keep our neighborhood presentable.

5 thoughts on “APHZAB Looks at Two Projects”

  1. Aside from the issue of story height, are there any other half-blocks on east-west streets that have four houses? The most I can think of are three, & two is more usual.

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    1. You raised a good question so I went for a drive-around to get an informal count. I counted five examples of four residences between a major and a minor avenue, 26 examples of three and the rest were two or one. I concluded that three was the most common, two or one next and four least common but not unusual. Incidentally, I agree with Phyllis Factor’s observation that only one location has a major/street corner house facing the street. All others face the major avenue. The APHZAB wanted the major avenue/street lot to face 5th Avenue. The developer might object because the setbacks along 5th are greater than those along 18th Street. There are two more similar vacant lots in the same area so what is done in this case will likely have an impact on how they are developed.

      Your question raised two other issues for me. First, should the historic process consider residence density when evaluating the rhythm of a particular location? Second, the resubdivision has had tentative approval and the process moves forward while the project has still not been presented formally to the APHZAB. Density can have a major impact on the rhythm of a locale and the historic character of the neighborhood.

      Thanks you for your thoughtful question.

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      1. Out of curiosity, where are the five examples of four? It is my opinion that density should absolutely be considered.

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      2. Sorry for the slow response to your post.

        I did a more thorough survey (still not guaranteed) via Google earth and here are the results (Six Locations):
        SW corner of 12th St & 3rd Ave, SW corner of 14th St & 5th Ave, SE corner of 16th St & 3rd Ave, SE corner of 17 St & 4th Ave, SE corner of 17 St & 5th Ave and SE corner of 18th St & 2nd Ave.

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